Monday, February 28, 2011

PaleoCons and NeoCons start in different places, end up at the same spot

Meet the Weak-on-Defenser Cons

From Eric Dondero:

It's not often that Lew Rockwell and David Frum are thought of as cut from the same cloth. But to pro-defensers they are two sides of the same coin. They may start from entirely different areas of the spectrum, but they both end up in the same exact weak-on-defense side.

Chris Queen a national security conservative from Georgia has penned the First Top Ten List of Islamapologits Blogs at Newsreal.

Making the list are many Left Blogs such as HuffPo, Daily Kos, and CNN, of course. But Rockwell and Frum also make the list and are normally considered "Right."

Excerpts from Queen's descriptions of the Top Ten, in spot Number 3:
Sometimes Islamapologism doesn’t just come from the Left. You can even find it on the Right, believe it or not. One prime example can be found at FrumForum.

Apparently for one of the site’s bloggers, “modernization and renewal” means sucking up to Islamists and defending their right to attempt to destroy us

Frum actually refers to those expressing concern over [Grover Norquist friend and C-PAC board member] Suhail Khan as “(mis)representing some very minor personalities as central figures in a giant continuing conspiracy.” Frum intimates that Khan’s dangerous associations are nothing to be worried about. Yet the truth is, we simply cannot ignore what Frum sees as “minor.”
And in the Number 2 position...
Possibly one of the most mystifying websites I’ve seen in a long time is the one run by anti-American libertarian Lew Rockwell.

Scratch the surface (which is not-so-charmingly retro, looking like a relic from 1996), and you’ll discover a radical libertarian site with plenty of vitriol toward America’s defense, especially when it comes to radical Islam.
Justin Raimondo lashed out at conservatives for being intolerant toward those who are bent on destroying our freedom and our way of life:
In more 9/11 anniversary news: a rally sponsored by the David Horowitz-affiliated “Jihad Watch,” in alliance with Pamela “Shrieking Harpy” Geller’s “Stop the Islamization of America” grouplet and the British neo-fascist “English Defense League,” attracted a few thousand wackos to a site a few blocks from Ground Zero, where uber-wacko Geert Wilders (Dutch neo-fascist and leading Islamophobe) made the case for banning Islam…

Wilders, Geller, and “Jihad Watch” anti-Islam guru Robert Spencer want to import Europe’s Muslim-hating racist fringe to America: their thesis is that Islam is not a religion, but a political conspiracy to impose Sharia law on non-Muslims. They raise the specter of an Islamic States of America, with American women draped in the chador and mandatory mosque attendance — a scenario that doesn’t even qualify as credible science fiction.
Isn’t it comforting to know that there are people out there who think of those of us who don’t want to live under the thumb of Islam as “kooky”?
It would be more comfortable to know that all Americans, especially those who claim to be on the Right, stand up for America and American values.


  1. Mr. Rockwell coined the nonsensically overly intellectual term 'paleo-libertarian' as a copout from the paleoconservative banner. I understand your neoconservative criticism--its the standard one against the paleos. However--is your understaning of Americanism soley its military ventures? I guess so since previous institutions either do not exist or are fringe. That is our distinguishment and that correlates to Lew Rockwells scholarly point... That you Libertarians and neoconservatives have a counterculture that is now popular culture calling license--liberty. Or in the case of neoconservatives rationalizing the licentiousness. While wanting to get tough on crime--the criminal activity of society. Paleos do not like the Beatles and find your hippie movement a drunken, drugged, sex orgy of pagan flesh.

  2. Eric; I like your post, but find your title misleading.

    David Frum is most definitely not a neocon. I like him generally, but dont like his softness on national security issues. For real neocons, see Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, Ed Koch, Joe Lieberman, and many others. These persons, at one time considered liberals, are solidly aware of the dangers of Islamic jihad.

    As for paleocons, again Lew Rockwell in no way fits the bill. Real paleos, such as Mike Huckabee, John McCain, John Bolton, Sarah Palin, Donald Rumsfield, are all strong on national defense and recognize the battle that we are facing.

  3. Mr. White you have no idea what a paleoconservative is.